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Post by sallyg on May 16, 2008 7:33:33 GMT 10
Hi all,
Just a quick question re: local adoption
I understand that it can take a year for an adoption order, and that you can not get a passport for an adopted child until this point in time. (Please correct me if I'm wrong!).
Do you know what happens after you have a passport for the child with regard to living overseas?
If there is access with BF, is this statutory like it is for PC?
Just throwing the question out there as we might have the opportunity to live overseas at some time in the future and was wondering if it is possible with an adopted child.
Thanks!
Sal x
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Post by doris on May 16, 2008 8:07:00 GMT 10
Hi Sal
I asked the same question to our old case worker. In the first year we are purely the guardians of the child. only under certain circumstances would they alow a child to go overseas in the first year. Once the the 12 months is over, she could not give me a definate answer on it. all she said they would have to look into it. and BF have to agree, because of the access visits that are agreed to on the order.
i hope this makes sense.
Doris
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Post by flossyinoz on May 16, 2008 11:44:11 GMT 10
I had the impression that living overseas with an adopted child is definitely possible, of course some kinds of arrangements for access would need to be made if in the adoption order.
And re passport, you can get one in the first year but as Doris said only under certain circumstances and you are not even allowed to leave the state without permission from social services. That will be hard for us as we love to go either interstate or on foreign holidays which are often not much more expensive than staying here, eg Fiji.
Flossyinoz
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Post by sallyg on May 16, 2008 14:42:18 GMT 10
Flossy, your version of events sounds better.
We (dh and I) really need to nut this one out as it will have a bit impact on our application. It can be soooo hard sometimes - all these 'ifs' and 'buts'...
So are the number of access visits actually in the order? And its it specified when?
I know how you feel Flossy about not travelling! I actually wrote in my life story that we don't travel much anymore... then listed the places we'd been in the last 24 months... then had to delete the bit about us not travelling much! it's just not as much as we use to (when living o/s)! Oh well, I'm sure we'll all be overjoyed to be chained to our homes when a little one finally arrives :-).
S
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Post by flossyinoz on May 16, 2008 15:05:37 GMT 10
I think a framework is in the order, not actual dates.
But I think living abroad for an extended time while applying would not go down well and might lead to deferral of your application unless you could come straight home when you are linked with a child. Living abroad after having the child and the actual order should be okay as long as you can facilitate access. Everything will once again probably depend on the individual case.
We still plan to travel when we have a child or two, my parents travelled with us, but I guess for the first 2 years this will be limited to closer venues. On the other hand we will probably ask to get a passport for the child as soon as possible as we have parents in Europe and we need to be able to leave straight away if something happens to them and I am sure social services would make an exception in this case. Our case workers said in one case they had a passport for a child within a day or 2. So it is possible.
Flossyinoz
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Post by sallyg on May 17, 2008 11:09:05 GMT 10
We don't intend on moving o/s in the immediate future - so it wouldn't be while being processed / waiting.
If we were still waiting when we wanted to move o/s we would cancel our application and apply o/s. Let's face it, just about any country is easier to adopt in than Australia... (a big incentive for moving if we're not matched in a reasonable time).
I assume PC would be out of the question re: moving o/s. I think travel is possible if birth families give permission for a passport, but I think moving o/s is really not in 'the spirit of PC' unless the child has absolutely no contact with BF...
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